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Kings in America

Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2025 6:03 am
by deacon blues
One of the many ironies of contemporary American life is that many people, possibly as many as 70 million :o , actually want a king; in the form of a single executive power that overrules any legislative or judicial power, or even constitutional power.
Many of these same people would claim as holy scripture, books (Bible, BOM) that discourage kings. I'm thinking of 1 Samuel 8:4-6 in particular. :? The BOM is ambiguous about kings, if I recall correctly. :roll:

How many people, Mormon or Non-Mormon know that in the Council of Fifty records of 1844 Nauvoo, we have a recorded effort to establish a King right here in the middle of America? A king who would consolidate executive, legislative, judicial, and constitutional power in one man.
That council chose as King a man named Joseph Smith. He was sustained as king, not only of America, but of the whole world.
Isn't LDS history the darndest thing? :lol:

Re: Kings in America

Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2025 12:59 am
by moksha
deacon blues wrote: Sat Aug 02, 2025 6:03 am How many people, Mormon or non-Mormon, know that in the Council of Fifty records of 1844, Nauvoo, we have a recorded effort to establish a King right here in the middle of America? A king who would consolidate executive, legislative, judicial, and constitutional power in one man.

That council chose as King a man named Joseph Smith. He was sustained as king, not only of America, but of the whole world.
Isn't LDS history the darndest thing? :lol:
Mormons pose a certain degree of danger to the world.

Re: Kings in America

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2025 6:30 am
by moksha
Trump is selling hats with the slogan Trump in 2028 in the White House gift shop. The Quorum of the Twelve will declare that there is nothing in LDS doctrine to prohibit this and that they will take no position against this move. They will point out that the Constitution is purely a secular matter.

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Re: Kings in America

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2025 9:58 am
by alas
moksha wrote: Sun Aug 10, 2025 6:30 am Trump is selling hats with the slogan Trump in 2028 in the White House gift shop. The Quorum of the Twelve will declare that there is nothing in LDS doctrine to prohibit this and that they will take no position against this move. They will point out that the Constitution is purely a secular matter.

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And here I was taught that the constitution was inspired and was kind of like scripture in that God had an active role in inspiring what went into it.

Re: Kings in America

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2025 8:56 pm
by moksha
alas wrote: Tue Aug 26, 2025 9:58 am And here I was taught that the Constitution was inspired and was kind of like scripture in that God had an active role in inspiring what went into it.
You remember right, but the history and doctrines of the LDS Church are undergoing drastic revisions. Names of Sunday services are now being assigned generic Christian names, and Mormon is now acknowledged as a "Devil" name, according to President Nelson.

Trump running for a third term still poses a problem for the Constitution.