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I asked my transgender daughter to tell her militant trans leftist friends to stop killing our great American heroes.

Here's a chart that should be displayed on every billboard across the country:


I also found it bewildering that MAGA people were irate about supposed anti-fascist engravings on Robinson's bullet casings. Interesting that considered a personal insult.

The evidence so far says this was far right on far right violence. There is a kind of young man insanity where they want to prove their manhood by killing off their own tribe leader. Quite instinctive actually. Gorillas do it, baboons do it. Far right idiots do it. Well, looks to me like this shooter had his manhood threatened by his relationship with his male transitioning to female roommate. So, he went off the deep end proving how brave he could be. But the right will keep looking for how the leftist crazies got to him, when really they just need to look in a blankety blank mirror.

And sorry governor Cox, but fascists have never been talked out of killing everyone who doesn’t look like them and some who do by talking politely to them. So, talk polite right up till they throw you into a gas chamber. Being polite never talked anyone out of hatred.

Trade the word Jew for Mexican, and the name of the latest guy assassinated, and Trump for your favorite dictator then you can see where we are on the road to a fascist takeover.

Hagoth wrote: ↑Sun Sep 14, 2025 8:08 pm I also found it bewildering that MAGA people were irate about supposed anti-fascist engravings on Robinson's bullet casings. Interesting that considered a personal insult.

It is worth nothing that the "anti-fascist" messages engraved on un-fired bullet casings has been found to be a hoax. The WSJ jumped the gun and then later retracted it.
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/charli ... F9cw%3D%3D

It is worth nothing that the "anti-fascist" messages engraved on un-fired bullet casings has been found to be a hoax. The WSJ jumped the gun and then later retracted it.
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/charli ... F9cw%3D%3D
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Good point. Isn't it fascinating though that people felt insulted by the idea of anti-facist messages? Also, the "transgender ideology" engraved on the casings was actually a threat to gay people.

alas wrote: ↑Mon Sep 15, 2025 9:10 am ...Well, looks to me like this shooter had his manhood threatened by his relationship with his male transitioning to female roommate. So, he went off the deep end proving how brave he could be. But the right will keep looking for how the leftist crazies got to him, when really they just need to look in a blankety blank mirror.

I can only imagine the incredible cognitive dissonance and internal turmoil when an alt-right Mormon man-child can't escape the reality that he is is falling in love with a trans person. What would be interesting would be if it turns out he had been rejected by a trans person. That would be ultimately humiliating to someone like that. I wonder if we'll ever know. I suspect that they will do everything possible to avoid talking about his right-wing upbringing and mindset. But I really feel sorry for that trans roommate, already getting blamed for what their idiot roommate did.

For what it's worth, Alex Jones' phone turned out to be full of transgender porn. There's a lot of complex weirdness going on in these guys. Someday we'll better recognize the strong association between homo/trans phobia and self-hating closeted LGBT people. There sure have been a lot of LGBT-hating preachers and politicians that turned out to be closeted themselves. These include some of the most aggressive politicians against gay rights.

Oh yeah, and there's also college to blame. A Fox News commentator said Robinson was left-radicalized because he attended college. What? The dude washed out after one semester at Utah State. I graduated from Utah State and I can tell you it is NOT a bastion of liberal ideals. It's a Mormon-dominated Utah agricultural college, for crying out loud. I came away from there more religiously indoctrinated and conservative than at any other time in my life.

Hagoth wrote: ↑Mon Sep 15, 2025 6:46 pm For what it's worth, Alex Jones' phone turned out to be full of transgender porn. There's a lot of complex weirdness going on in these guys. Someday we'll better recognize the strong association between homo/trans phobia and self-hating closeted LGBT people. There sure have been a lot of LGBT-hating preachers and politicians that turned out to be closeted themselves. These include some of the most aggressive politicians against gay rights.

You touched on this but my best guess is that they were raised in a society where being gay was universally condemned, those societal values got set as a part of their core beliefs during childhood, they hit puberty and start having gay feelings (as an example), then they started being very vocally against being gay as both a means of remaining safe within society and as a form of preaching to themselves more than anyone external to them.

They become more and more forceful in their condemnations because they're really fighting an aspect of their own nature that they may not like and because their nature isn't changing. They keep turning up the rhetoric in a vain effort to correct something they view as a flaw within themselves.

I dunno, I'm no psychologist. Didn't even stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night.

Hagoth wrote: ↑Mon Sep 15, 2025 6:46 pm Oh yeah, and there's also college to blame. A Fox News commentator said Robinson was left-radicalized because he attended college. What? The dude washed out after one semester at Utah State. I graduated from Utah State and I can tell you it is NOT a bastion of liberal ideals. It's a Mormon-dominated Utah agricultural college, for crying out loud. I came away from there more religiously indoctrinated and conservative than at any other time in my life.

It's got to fit into the narrative they're pushing. I don't know whether it's a calculated decision, a lie they tell people, or resulting from extreme cognitive dissonance, a lie they have to tell themselves.

Hagoth wrote: ↑Mon Sep 15, 2025 6:46 pm Oh yeah, and there's also college to blame...

It's got to fit into the narrative they're pushing. I don't know whether it's a calculated decision, a lie they tell people, or resulting from extreme cognitive dissonance, a lie they have to tell themselves.
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Oh, and it turns out that his one semester was online. I would love to see what classes he took that turned him into a foaming-at-the-mouth leftist assassin.

I think he was just a twisted, whiney little b*tch who grew up in a society that taught him to respond to conflict with violence. Look at all of the pictures of his childhood with him and his parents waving around guns. It would be interesting to hear what Sunday dinner conversations were like in that family before we get to eager to blame freshman algebra or trans people or Joe Biden for his actions.

And it turns out, he was not in a relationship with a trans roommate. The roommate is not trans, only kind of a pretty guy, and they were not in any kind of relationship. He was not believed to be in any romantic relationship. All made up bunk by the MAGA liars. They can make up imaginary crap faster than investigators can disprove it. So, of their claims, the shooter is not at all a leftist, but raised in a nice Republican Mormon family, and far from being radicalized, he was not even very interested in politics, according to his online activity and people who knew him. He appears to just be a normal insecure kid.

So, I suppose we all need to be more careful to find out where our information comes from because I got mine from supposedly reputable news sources, but apparently the “reputable” news sources got their information from right wing made up garbage. And it seems that some people lied to make the shooter look like he could be a leftist nut case.

I am starting to feel like I am living under a dictator because the disinformation is so common and it gets hard to sort out what is real. Even some sources I have trusted are starting to parrot propaganda.

Mormons need an alternative to embracing fascism.

1) We get a bad jobs report
2) Trump freaks out, fires person responsible for reporting job statistics
3) New jobs report looks great!
4) Hmm...

Good thing no unfriendly nations or organizations are clever enough to notice that the 800 top US military leaders will be a at secret meeting that has an announced time and location!

ETA: Now Trump has announced that he will be there too. Maybe they should invite The Pope, Netanyahu, the top ten billionaires and media moguls, and seat them in an arrangement shaped like a giant target.