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Unsurprisingly conference is lacking relevancy... again, so I'm attempting to inject some.

I find asking, "Oh, is that why you continue to support Trump?" at then end of all their sentences.

Pay your tithing even when your business is losing money.

-200 billion

Edit: I feel like Jesus owes the business owner money in that scenario.

Feels like the theme of the talk is, "Can I get a calling promotion?"

He's quoting Oaks quoting Jesus. Just. Quote. Jesus.

What of the people that feel the church doesn't measure up? Yeah, church is gonna be great in the upcoming months for people that love being quilted into participating in the ministering program. When your ministers call sometime in the next few weeks, know it's because they love you, not because ...

Three people sustain Oaks.
Now twelve.
Now 70.
Now the fellas in the house.
Now the women.
Kid dudes.
Kid chicks.
Now everyone.

Uh, "everyone" covers all the preceding categories. What a waste of time. But why settle for one ego stroke when you can get a dozen?

No opposed votes? Cowards.

Many Bible scholars say that much of the Bible is (totally fictional) stories meant to unite different people into one nation with one national identity. It's 30 minutes and only tangentially related but worth a watch: Origin of the 12 Tribes of Israel from an Academic Point of View https://www ...

Looks like I forgot how to spell. :lol: I fixed the thread title for you... I think. There's the old saying, "Ignorance is bliss." It seems to fit your quote. I think there's some duality to it though. Wisdom brings sadness in some areas but delivers happiness in other areas. A faith transition ...

There are any number of things that people place their value in. None of them are necessarily right or wrong or one better than the other. In church I see a lot of people that put value in trust, strength, toughness, loyalty, discipline, and leadership. Nothing wrong with that list but the challenge ...

In your defense, all the new guys are cut from the same mold, they're essentially the same person with a different name. Maybe with the exception of Kearon. That said, I had to google Kearon's name just now. :P My point is that they're all lawyers or rich dudes that are both products of and slaves ...

So what you're saying is that if the cards fall "right" we could be looking at a Bednar presidency that lasts two decades or more.

God wants people to like him, right?

I'll take a different angle...

Why should members continue to sacrifice for an organization that has shown that it is unwilling to make sacrifices for them?

deacon blues wrote: ↑Sun Nov 23, 2025 9:39 am Yep. Classic case of a protective mother projecting her own desires on her son.

That's my mom's most favorite piece!

For now. Maybe under Oaks we won't see a repeat of before where it was an on-again, off-again, one thing one week, another thing the next Saturday evening conference session. I do feel like conference lasted far too long so eliminating one session kinda helps. Reflecting back on my conference ...

NOM constantly times out (never loads) for me when I use the https address. If I use the http address it's fine, so something is still amiss.

Maybe it's under Bednar's pickle.

-The Isaiah fulfillment part about Anthon saying "I cannot read a sealed book" was not part of the original account, but was written in later between the lines in another hand. If google is correct, Harris went to Anthon in February of 1828. The BoM was translated between early April and late June ...

"well, maybe we have spiritual experiences more frequently than they do." Now the real question, does that make someone more superior or less superior? :D I grew up in a surrounding culture that was very Evangelical. Trust me when I say this, Mormons are never going to out-spiritual experience ...

Hard to believe.

Maybe this:

https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.or ... ses-of-god

The denial of God or the downplaying of His role in human affairs, which began in the Renaissance, has become pervasive today.

President: Dallas H. Oaks
1st Counselor: Henry B. Eyring
2nd Counselor: D. Todd Christofferson